Secrets to making money on FanBox

I can't understand why Joen made a great profit over the short term and he had one or two blogs but they weren't that interesting?!? I can understand Erica making a profit in the short term as she had many, many interesting blogs!!! Thanks for the info JC.

thanks johny,
maybe its time for me to work hard more by following your advise.
more power to all.

Yeah Jan - I hear you - and no offense meant to Joen, but he simply got lucky.

Joen turned on an Ad at a high daily budget and then apparently mentally tuned out -- and it just so happened that every day the money he made happened to make up for the money he spent.

I know Joen said he just cashed out -- which means that he obviously made a profit overall -- but i can't imagine that it was a huge profit - because his blog looks like it took him about 20 seconds to put together, and the same thing for his Ad.

All that shows is that is possible to make a huge profit with Ads if one had the desire to -- and were willing to "bet it all" on Ads - but this is not the behavior that we serious bloggers want to encourage, and it also takes away available Ad inventory from the rest of us. (That's why, as of last week, Ads have been limited to $50 a day per person. At her peak, Erica was investing about $1,000 a day on her Ads).

Like I said, the daily limits will be increased or removed as the traffic and available Ad inventory increase, as many people are arguing that its not fair because there were no limits for Erica and Joen -- but the hope is that people will use FanBox Ads to promote their blogs and build their readership in a moderate and thoughtful way, and not simply to act out their gambling or get rich quick fantasies.

To Ms. Jan K, thanks for always promoting my name in every corner here in fanbox, i truly appreciate your love and support, again thanks for that.

To Mr. Jc, thanks for always been there for me, for guiding me, supporting me, helping me, being as my shoulder whom i can cried on, my great mentor and my everything. As i promise you i will start all over again being an active blogger on May 1, 2011. Right now... just im helping others what is my technique and strategy to earn good profit using ads and posting more interesting blogs. Again Mr. Jc thank you very much for everything.

To All Fanbox Members please don't judge me if i become no. 1. I worked hard on all my blog posts and i invest so much on my ads, don't worry i am here to share all my experiences with you, my technique, my strategy, my lesson and my hardship why i become no. 1 in the Leader Board. I want to see you all TOP in the Leader Board for this coming generation, congratulations to all.

thanks JC for the info...Erica, keep going...be the leader...it is your right to be no 1...you deserve it...

nice one jc.. always like ur blogs.. you have some thing different to attract ur fans.. any how good.. keep it up.. thanx for info.. again.

Ver, the compensation algorithms provide different compensation for different users -- and you do not get paid for all visitors to your blogs.

Imagine what would happen if the algorithms paid you for every visitor. Some bloggers feel that creating many (fake) accounts - and having those accounts "visit" their blogs will make them money.

If anyone has tried that, they will notice that it doesn't work for long or at all.

Or a few bloggers sit around and read each other's blogs -- to give each other "time".

Once again, those people become highly frustrated and disappointed.

FanBox algorithms are there to ensure that only the best posts make the lion's share of the earnings - so that the earnings pool is used fairly and to the benefit of the people that are NOT spending their limited time and energy trying to figure out how to game the system.

All your creativity should be spent figuring out how to create great blogs and posts, and how to bring visitors to their posts that really will enjoy your posts.

If you focus on that effort - creating good posts on topics that people are interested in -- I am sure your earnings will grow.

"the compensation algorithms provide different compensation for different users"

So the algorithm is discriminatory based on _________?

"FanBox algorithms are there to ensure that only the best posts make the lion's share of the earnings"

See previous question, what is the term "best posts" based on?

"If you focus on that effort - creating good posts on topics that people are interested in -- I am sure your earnings will grow."

Ver said he knows he has had visitors and has created new posts yet has only got a $.01 in earnings. So how is "best posts" determined by "the algorithm" provided poor Ver has worked his heart out and hasn't seen any profit?

I have a question.

Do the compensation algorithms value unique content more than say, a cut-n-paste article or joke on someone's blog?

Thanks for the good questions. The compensation algorithms are highly proprietary, as many millions of dollars and thousands of man (person) years of engineering time have gone into them - but I will definitely share everything I know about them.

These algorithms are also very complicated (FanBox has a couple dozen of patents pending and some that were just awarded) and I personally do not know or understand all the details -- just like no one (outside of a small handful of Google's engineers) truly understands all the details of how Google's algorithms work for search.

I do know a few things, and I will take some time out and detail them all in a blog post soon - with the help of a couple of the FanBox engineers. This topic deserves a post because it's painful to see people wasting their valuable time and energy trying things to generate earnings that simply don't work -- instead of doing the things that do.

Until I write that post, here are a couple of reminders:

1) Going to each other's blogs (whether you leave a comment or not) in order to "give them love" or "time in blog" does absolutely nothing (as in zero, zilch, nada) for you. In fact, it could actually have a negative effect.

I simply can't stress enough how useless this type of activity is -- but somehow you still see people going around to each other's blogs and leaving messages like "Done" or "visited" or "Visit my blogs please".

In fact, the people that seem to be the most frustrated, also appear to be the same people, by far, that are doing exactly that. It makes sense that they are frustrated -- because they are working so hard at doing the wrong things, and accomplishing nothing, so of course they are feeling discouraged. I wish I could reach them all, shake them, and ask them what it would take for them to stop hurting themselves (wasting their time and frustrating themselves) with those silly behaviors - when the way to generate earnings (that actually works) is pretty darn clear, and simple.

#2 The other thing that does not work, is sending your blog URL around to others on FanBox -- by sending personal messages to one or lots of people, or posting it in their or your feed, or posting it into comments anywhere including in blogs, photos, and anywhere/everywhere else on FanBox.

Again, it is so painful to watch people doing these activities - when it should be clear after the very first time they try it - that it does exactly ZERO for their earning abilities -- AND -- actually has 3 negative impacts on their earning capabilities:

A) When people feel that you are spamming them, they click "spam" in their inbox, or visit your profile and report you from there. These signal the algorithms - which may use that signal to depreciate your earnings - not to mention suspend or delete your account for the worst offenders. Nobody likes receiving junk like "read my blog: URL"...

WHY should I read your blog? All you're getting me to do is make sure I definitely ignore ALL blogs from you - including the one you just sent me -- and report you as a spammer.

B) When you send people spam or things they find useless, in order to protect their valuable time, they stop being your Fan or Friend. This means that, from that point forward, they won't receive all future posts from your blogs -- reducing your future earnings.

Each time someone removes you as fan or friend, the algorithms receive that signal too.

C) Even if they don't report you, or click SPAM or stop being your fan or friend, people "tune you out" - making a subconscious point to ignore future things from you. Again, this has a negative impact on your future earnings.

And once again, believe it or not, the algorithms watch how ignored your posts are -- and use that as variables in their calculations.

(continued)

Wow, that sounds like a lot of things to worry about -- and we haven't even begun to scratch the surface of how the algorithms really do their thing. :(

So what should you worry about – as you look to build your audience and earnings on FanBox?

It’s REALLY simple:

DON'T WORRY ABOUT ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, that’s right. Just focus your limited time, energy and unlimited creativity and passion on:

1) MAKING NEW POSTS and updating prior ones to keep them fresh;

2) As I’ve repeated too many times lately – as long as you have a long-term approach in mind: Use FanBox Ads to accelerate your audience and community-building efforts.

As I’ve detailed in some of my other posts – there are a lot of other things you could be doing, but I am convinced by watching the trials, errors and successes of many of you, that those two efforts by far will bring you more success than posting your blog URL to facebook, fanbox and other sites; driving people to your profile, or any other activity.

That’s it! Algorithm, Smalgorithm! As long as you do those 2 things (make quality posts and promote them when they’re ready) – I beg you to trust me on this – you will be rewarded.

Stray to some other seemingly brilliant scheme that your friend is selling you on to “accelerate things” and you will only frustrate yourself.

Believe it or not, sometimes the simple way is what actually works best. FanBox has spent years working on making sure this is exactly how it would work before letting the rest of us play in this sandbox.

When you’re done trying everything else, why not give this simpler approach a try for a couple of weeks?

great day, mr. jonny cash,just want to know how to start in this game (the steps specifically) thank you

Ferwin, here's a smart way to start: Learn from those that are succeeding! One good trick is to visit the LeaderBoard, and click "Become a Fan" on the top 100 folks worldwide. Then, each day, you will receive their earnings report (showing what they're doing to succeed) and you will get all their new posts -- and you will definitely learn from them.

lots of good tips here. thanks for posting this blog.

thanks Johnny i do understand....thanks alot...

goood...thanx for the tip.

Johnny Cash, Thanks for the information, always a pleasure to read your posts! :)

ya nice tips u gve to us
thankyou

Oliver-
Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude.
Thomas Jefferson

thank you johnny cash for this post! i learn a lot, now i know..im just new in this site and your post is very helpful to me..thank you again!

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THanks Jc... I'm new here

great...dear

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ohhh i was thinking that he ads will make good money ...thanks for information..

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very informative post and one that explains a lot of the way the ads work .

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well done jhony cash my dear ..........

Thanks JC for the information people need to realize it takes time to filter the earnings nice post Johnny!

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very helpful post. I learned a lot... Thanks

goood...thanx for the tip.

Nice explaining there!

i like fanbox regardless .or i would not be hear as long as i have losing my profile and all ..but i do notice there are those who just stick together as groups .and do not move forward ..they may be family and real life friends .that is unfair to others ..i stay hear because i like it i did from the beginning 8 years ago .when there was no premium blogs ..thank you for this information.